General Mayhem

[Jebus]

ebay scammer got pwnt by judge judy...the plaintiff's daughter is pretty hot too

[pansy]

ooh that is pretty hot indeed.  pansy approved.

[Rhox]

Vid Spoiler:








$5000~ chha CHIIING~

[Dracus]

meh...it's the plaintiff's fault she didn't read all the details.  As much as the defendant is a scam artist, it's sad to see people catering to the stupidity of others.

[onions]

i thought the same thing until i listened to the verdict. i think the defendant's case would have held up had she not put the weight of the phone on the ad. i've seen auctions like that where they would sell the box of the item or a picture of the item, i was wondering what the justification would be for her to lose.

[Silverback]

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Dracus wrote:
meh...it's the plaintiff's fault she didn't read all the details.  As much as the defendant is a scam artist, it's sad to see people catering to the stupidity of others.

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[Dracus]

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Silverback wrote:

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Dracus wrote:
meh...it's the plaintiff's fault she didn't read all the details.  As much as the defendant is a scam artist, it's sad to see people catering to the stupidity of others.

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uh

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I'm not advocating that what the defendant did was right, but at the same time when you see people in WoW complain about opening a CoD package for 100g from someone they don't know whose fault is it?

[Silverback]

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Dracus wrote:

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Silverback wrote:

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Dracus wrote:
meh...it's the plaintiff's fault she didn't read all the details.  As much as the defendant is a scam artist, it's sad to see people catering to the stupidity of others.

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uh

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I'm not advocating that what the defendant did was right, but at the same time when you see people in WoW complain about opening a CoD package for 100g from someone they don't know whose fault is it?

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If you've ever been a victim, you blame the scammer.  If you've never been a victim, you can easily say that the person was being dumb.  This argument isn't winnable.  It's a chicken and egg scenario.  In the end though, the scammers are out to prey on unsuspecting victims and when caught, should be punished.

[Dracus]

If the auction stated it was for a photo only then who is to blame?  If the text that specifically stated that was really hard to find and if you had to do a lot of searching for it then yeah shame on the seller.  But if the text was there and easy to find then who is at fault for having a trigger happy "Bid" button finger and didn't read the finer details?

[Rhox]

scam work because honest people trust too much.  a prime example is this auction.  reading the descriptions of the phone, such as the weight, design style, indicates that it's an actual phone.   no doubt that the scammer put the print "this auction is for photo only... " somewhere in the description.  but that does not mean you can expect a judge to hold your document in court while you are attempting to fool people out of their money.  who in their right mind would buy a photo of the phone for $200+?   it was clear to the judge that this auction was intended to scam people out of their money.

there are always ALWAYS people scamming because there are people who are too trustworthy and fall victum to these types of scams.  in the vid, the plaintiff mentioned that there are 8 other people filing for the suit over the same scam. 

[Lautakwah]

what rhox said is definately true.  there are always people out to get you so yes I agree you always have to be on your toes and be smarter than them, but at the same time shit happens and if you fall victim to them you shouldn't be the one being blaimed.  I mean is it right to say to a rape victim well she should have saw the signs and should have known better than to go out with that guy?  she deserved what she got.  crime is a crime is a crime imo. 

Message Edited by Lautakwah on 02-28-2007 01:36 PM

[Silverback]

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Dracus wrote:
If the auction stated it was for a photo only then who is to blame?  If the text that specifically stated that was really hard to find and if you had to do a lot of searching for it then yeah shame on the seller.  But if the text was there and easy to find then who is at fault for having a trigger happy "Bid" button finger and didn't read the finer details?

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You're probably sick and tired of people portraying themselves as victims.  Suing at the drop of a hat because you didn't take the necessary steps to understand the details is ridiculous.  However, I draw the line when the defendant purposely takes steps to scam others using deceptive tactics.  Posting a fraudulant auction that you know will show up in the middle of many other legitimate auctions to entice people to bid is deception.  As Rhox said, it was made with the sole purpose of luring unsuspecting and trustworthy people.  A fool and his money are soon parted right?

A granny that sues McDonald's because she couldn't figure out that hot coffee was hot is one thing, but that seller's intent was to scam.  Plain and simple.

[Dracus]

it's a wonder how a fool got together with his money in the first place.  but sb you summed it up rather nicely.  i agree that the person who was selling the item was out to scam them.  but i think a little accountability should be taken on the part of the buyer as well. 

[Luhn]

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Silverback wrote:

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Dracus wrote:
If the auction stated it was for a photo only then who is to blame?  If the text that specifically stated that was really hard to find and if you had to do a lot of searching for it then yeah shame on the seller.  But if the text was there and easy to find then who is at fault for having a trigger happy "Bid" button finger and didn't read the finer details?

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You're probably sick and tired of people portraying themselves as victims.  Suing at the drop of a hat because you didn't take the necessary steps to understand the details is ridiculous.  However, I draw the line when the defendant purposely takes steps to scam others using deceptive tactics.  Posting a fraudulant auction that you know will show up in the middle of many other legitimate auctions to entice people to bid is deception.  As Rhox said, it was made with the sole purpose of luring unsuspecting and trustworthy people.  A fool and his money are soon parted right?

A granny that sues McDonald's because she couldn't figure out that hot coffee was hot is one thing, but that seller's intent was to scam.  Plain and simple.

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