WoW Mayhem

[Mikey]

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Lately, I’ve been seeing a lot of posts about the same subjects – subjects that have been addressed in an upcoming patch – so I wanted to let you guys know where things stood.

The Rogue Situation

We’ve done a tuning pass of many of our dungeons/bosses/encounters to ensure that nothing overly punishing occurs to “melee DPS’ that would lead people to favor ranged DPS over Rogues/DPS Warriors
 etc.

Also, we’ve changed the NPC cleave mechanic so that it’s now a frontal cone ability rather than a 360 degree chain attack. Sweeping Strikes has been removed from all Burning Crusade NPC’s.
We’re also reducing the Glancing Blow damage penalty for creatures 1-3 levels higher than the player. This will have a significant effect on melee DPS as it relates to endgame melee dps. More details on this at a later time.

End Game Itemization

As we’ve stated before, we made a lot of improvements to endgame gear progression. To put it in perspective, take a look at this Warrior Tanking Breastplate from before and after.

Destroyer Chestguard – Currently
+24 Strength
+22 Agility
+39 Stamina
Blue Socket
Yellow Socket
Red Socket
Socket Bonus +6 Stamina
Equip: Increases Defense Rating by 23
Equip: Increases your dodge rating by 16
Equip: Improves hit rating by 18

Destroyer Chestguard – Patch 2.1.0
+21 Strength
+22 Agility
+51 Stamina
Blue Socket
Yellow Socket
Red Socket
Socket Bonus +6 Stamina
Equip: Increases Defense Rating by 23
Equip: Increases your dodge rating by 20
Equip: Improved hit rating by 20

”Trash” Concerns

Equally interesting yet non-epic-dropping non-bosses (or “Trash” as he community likes to call it) has been of concern lately on these forums. In all of our 25 person raid zones we’ve made a number of bug fixes and tuning adjustments. For example, the trash should be significantly easier to clear in most cases – and take less time. Also, we’ve lengthened the time between respawn on a lot of the trash. Yes, trash will respawn in some cases. It’s a pacing mechanic and one that works well when tuned correctly. For example, the trash before the Prophet Skeram or the trash before Attumen the Huntsmen or the Maiden of Virtue works well. You get a couple of tries on the boss, and if you fail, you spend a short time re-clearing. Yes, there are cases of the trash respawning too fast or the trash being too difficult or too lengthy. Those are the cases we hope to fix. We’ve also fixed some bugs that were allowing the trash to respawn after the boss for a certain area was dead.

Consumables

We’re making substantial changes to the way certain consumables work . In particular, Flasks and Elixirs are going to undergo major changes. More information will be available later on. We want Flasks and Elixirs to be a part of the game. We want alchemy to be a cool, needed profession. But we want to remove the tedium and cost from the massive consumable farming that’s going on for endgame raiding. We’ll provide more information soon – but for now, expect big changes to Flasks and Elixirs.

Boss Tuning

We’re looking at the boss tuning from dungeons to heroics to raids. Your feedback is being listened to.

To Summarize

We’re making big improvements to the game. Whenever possible, we hotfix changes to get them to you as quickly as possible. Unfortunately, there are many changes that require a patch and cannot be hotfixed. Many of these changes are coming in Patch 2.1.0. The patch will be on PTR’s in the upcoming weeks. You’ll be able to see them there and try them out for yourselves. You’ll also be able to test Black Temple. We’re also looking into ways of making Hyjal accessible on the PTR as well to get more testing on that zone.

I can assure you that we’re aware of the issues you guys are discussing on the boards and we’re listening closely. We’re also dedicated fans of the game ourselves. We play it every day =D We will affect change as quickly as we can. Patch 2.1.0 will be on the PTR soon enough and you’ll all have the opportunity to comment and make suggestions on the changes.

[Torba]

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Mikey wrote:

The Rogue Situation

We’ve done a tuning pass of many of our dungeons/bosses/encounters to ensure that nothing overly punishing occurs to “melee DPS’ that would lead people to favor ranged DPS over Rogues/DPS Warriors
 etc.

Also, we’ve changed the NPC cleave mechanic so that it’s now a frontal cone ability rather than a 360 degree chain attack. Sweeping Strikes has been removed from all Burning Crusade NPC’s.
We’re also reducing the Glancing Blow damage penalty for creatures 1-3 levels higher than the player. This will have a significant effect on melee DPS as it relates to endgame melee dps. More details on this at a later time.

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I'm giddy with excitement.

[Dragonex]

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Mikey wrote:
The Rogue Situation

We’ve done a tuning pass of many of our dungeons/bosses/encounters to ensure that nothing overly punishing occurs to “melee DPS’ that would lead people to favor ranged DPS over Rogues/DPS Warriors
 etc.

Also, we’ve changed the NPC cleave mechanic so that it’s now a frontal cone ability rather than a 360 degree chain attack. Sweeping Strikes has been removed from all Burning Crusade NPC’s.
We’re also reducing the Glancing Blow damage penalty for creatures 1-3 levels higher than the player. This will have a significant effect on melee DPS as it relates to endgame melee dps. More details on this at a later time.

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about damn time, wait what am i saying
this still won't be in game for another month or so =/

[Torba]

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Dragonex wrote:

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Mikey wrote:
The Rogue Situation

We’ve done a tuning pass of many of our dungeons/bosses/encounters to ensure that nothing overly punishing occurs to “melee DPS’ that would lead people to favor ranged DPS over Rogues/DPS Warriors
 etc.

Also, we’ve changed the NPC cleave mechanic so that it’s now a frontal cone ability rather than a 360 degree chain attack. Sweeping Strikes has been removed from all Burning Crusade NPC’s.
We’re also reducing the Glancing Blow damage penalty for creatures 1-3 levels higher than the player. This will have a significant effect on melee DPS as it relates to endgame melee dps. More details on this at a later time.

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about damn time, wait what am i saying
this still won't be in game for another month or so =/

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Still, reduction of of glancing blow dmg penalty is HUGE, that puts us back where we were when Weapon Expertise was installed and when it rocked. Something nice to look forward to, especially since it's not a nerf to CloS

[Silverback]

non-epic-dropping non-bosses (or “Trash” as he community likes to call it)

hahah, what a great name for trash

[wizll]

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Torba wrote:

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Mikey wrote:

The Rogue Situation

We’ve done a tuning pass of many of our dungeons/bosses/encounters to ensure that nothing overly punishing occurs to “melee DPS’ that would lead people to favor ranged DPS over Rogues/DPS Warriors
 etc.

Also, we’ve changed the NPC cleave mechanic so that it’s now a frontal cone ability rather than a 360 degree chain attack. Sweeping Strikes has been removed from all Burning Crusade NPC’s.
We’re also reducing the Glancing Blow damage penalty for creatures 1-3 levels higher than the player. This will have a significant effect on melee DPS as it relates to endgame melee dps. More details on this at a later time.

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I'm giddy with excitement.

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huh, i'm not understanding what's wrong with rogue end-game dps. doomelf easily topped the charts every raid with both mace or dagger thus far.

[Torba]

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wizll wrote:

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Torba wrote:

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Mikey wrote:

The Rogue Situation

We’ve done a tuning pass of many of our dungeons/bosses/encounters to ensure that nothing overly punishing occurs to “melee DPS’ that would lead people to favor ranged DPS over Rogues/DPS Warriors
 etc.

Also, we’ve changed the NPC cleave mechanic so that it’s now a frontal cone ability rather than a 360 degree chain attack. Sweeping Strikes has been removed from all Burning Crusade NPC’s.
We’re also reducing the Glancing Blow damage penalty for creatures 1-3 levels higher than the player. This will have a significant effect on melee DPS as it relates to endgame melee dps. More details on this at a later time.

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I'm giddy with excitement.

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huh, i'm not understanding what's wrong with rogue end-game dps. doomelf easily topped the charts every raid with both mace or dagger thus far.

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That's why I'm so excited!! But technically we *should* be doing more then we already are hahaha...

[brandonuno]

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wizll wrote:

huh, i'm not understanding what's wrong with rogue end-game dps. doomelf easily topped the charts every raid with both mace or dagger thus far.

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the cleaves and sweeping strikes were making them sucking heals like mad, if not one shotted

dunno about the glacing, they were doing pretty good dmg already it seems

[Citrus]

i knew it, right after i spec elixir mastery, they are gonna nerf it.

[Kem]

You don't have a shadow priest for your lock.

[oskibear]

Hmm... topic deleted from the official boards.   Maybe Tigole said too much?

[Silverback]

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oskibear wrote:
Hmm... topic deleted from the official boards.   Maybe Tigole said too much?

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he said he accidently deleted it: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=88560893&postId=885030957&sid=1#17

[Lautakwah]

sounds like some interesting changes.  i wonder what they're going to do to the pots to help alleviate the tedium of farming mats in order to make them.  and getting rid of that 360 degree cleave is gonna make life alot easier for melee and healers. 

[Kevorkian]

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Consumables

We’re making substantial changes to the way certain consumables work . In particular, Flasks and Elixirs are going to undergo major changes. More information will be available later on. We want Flasks and Elixirs to be a part of the game. We want alchemy to be a cool, needed profession. But we want to remove the tedium and cost from the massive consumable farming that’s going on for endgame raiding. We’ll provide more information soon – but for now, expect big changes to Flasks and Elixirs.

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I'm scared.....

[Kevorkian]

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End Game Itemization

As we’ve stated before, we made a lot of improvements to endgame gear progression. To put it in perspective, take a look at this Warrior Tanking Breastplate from before and after.

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This also means we should probably hold off on disenchanting epics from Karazhan (or Heroics) for now. We should distribute them to the right people and have them bank it even if it's not currently an upgrade--you never know if a certain piece is going to get a nice buff and all of a sudden it DOES become something you'd use.

[Luhn]

I read that they're putting the charge/intercept snare removal into the next patch.

[Mikey]

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wizll wrote:

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Torba wrote:

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Mikey wrote:

The Rogue Situation

We’ve done a tuning pass of many of our dungeons/bosses/encounters to ensure that nothing overly punishing occurs to “melee DPS’ that would lead people to favor ranged DPS over Rogues/DPS Warriors
 etc.

Also, we’ve changed the NPC cleave mechanic so that it’s now a frontal cone ability rather than a 360 degree chain attack. Sweeping Strikes has been removed from all Burning Crusade NPC’s.
We’re also reducing the Glancing Blow damage penalty for creatures 1-3 levels higher than the player. This will have a significant effect on melee DPS as it relates to endgame melee dps. More details on this at a later time.

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I'm giddy with excitement.

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huh, i'm not understanding what's wrong with rogue end-game dps. doomelf easily topped the charts every raid with both mace or dagger thus far.

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We're missing a shadowpriest.  15% lock damage, 5% for any other magical damage, and if you put them in a group with hunters, mana (and steady shot spam) becomes a non-issue and hunter dps goes up too.

[brandonuno]

it's misery + shadow vul = 20%!

[Kevorkian]

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brandonuno wrote:

it's misery + shadow vul = 20%!

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misery (15%) + curse of shadows (10%) = 25%

If we get an affliction spec lock, the 10% shadow dmg buff becomes 13%, so 28% total.

[Silverback]

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Kevorkian wrote:

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brandonuno wrote:

it's misery + shadow vul = 20%!

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misery (15%) + curse of shadows (10%) = 25%

If we get an affliction spec lock, the 10% shadow dmg buff becomes 13%, so 28% total.

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I'm not sure how this math works out...misery is 5%, shadow vuln is 15%